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I concur, I had one of those double-take moments looking at the title.

Good article though.

lol yea i noticed the title too
made me laugh
anyway i do agree that zelda games need to be harder but while i had no difficulty with ocarina of time(except the water temple) i simply couldnt majoras mask. Im sure if i sat down and continued trying to beat it i would have but i like the pride of being able to beat the game and if i cant do it i tend to give up. I got up the water temple in majoras mask when i gave up. I tried like three times but when i got to the boss door on the final day and that one pipe wasnt turned on to get to it i got pissed lol.

In Twilight Princess, the first game over screen was versus the four Mighty Darknuts, in my second run of the cave of Ordeals.

I should be getting gameovers at least twice a dungeon before i can truly enjoy the game.

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Zelda isn't necessarily being made easier, it's just we're pros at it now. Surely, it's time for Nintendo to introduce new types of puzzles into Zelda, ones that experience from old games won't help us with.
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Totally agree here. This statement pretty much sums up why change is never easy for some... Though familiarity even has its breaking points. Sadly enough, I believe ST will be the game that figuratively 'kills' (and I use the term loosely) off most older aged veterans' interests before Zelda Wii comes around.

In your articles you are continuously challenging the hard core crowd to open up and embrace the new era of Zelda... Which is quite honorable, considering you're defending the right of the new generation (casual players) to grow up with Zelda in their own way; rather than be expected to catch up with impatient veterans (like me, lol). All I can say is that: I too hope that ST isn't the beacon to light the new way for the series new style and formula. My hopes rest on Zelda Wii.

it was harder because you were younger! TP was my first zelda game, and now i've played most of them, it took me like 9 months to beat. i my have sucked back then, but still. the first game SEEMS harder, nd as you get more used to it, it seems to get easier. why is lmost every article here nitpick any way?

I agree, we are getting older, but zelda isn't getting any easier. We're pro's now.

@Shayaank: I wonder the very same thing about the articles.

Well guys, do you enjoy reading articles that take an original approach to looking at and discussing the Zelda series? Because that is what ZI is all about.

I mean let's face it, the games have been declining in magnificence for a few years now, and there are some members of the staff (me included) who feel quite strongly about making that clear.

Basically, we are going to write what we think about the series; if that stuff makes us sound like we hate Zelda (hell, there have been a few articles like that, and they were amazing articles), then so be it.

As long as we enjoy what we are doing while still reporting on relevant information pertaining to the series, then we are doing our job.

I don't think OoT and MM were so challenging either... The 2D games (up to LA, at least) were much harder than the 3D ones...

Yeah we nitpick in every article! Of course, thats a falicy, it just happens to be the articles you have chosen to read nitpick, as we should as fans, because we should always want a better game.

http://www.zeldainformer.com/2009/10/the-legacy-of-rolling.php#more

First article of this month, about the legacy of rolling. Yeah, thats nitpicking alright! Also click on the bombers section and start sifting through the bombers pieces, you will find next to no nitpicking per say there. The bombers are simply on a break atm, allowing some recovery time after we beat their heads in all summer to spit out articles like candy.

I feel immature for sniggering at the title and final line. *coughs*

But exactly: there doesn't need for there to be, say, a totally unfair amount of enemies to make it more difficult, instead they just need to go about things a different way. Maybe nintendo should be less worried about Zelda appealing to new gamers, and more worried that it still appeals to older ones, because if they go on using the exact same formula they currently are, the games will always appeal to gamers who haven't play it before, but in say, 5 more games time, will become very redundant to those who have.

And exactly, I want to see the Game Over screen more often. In the original TLoZ, when I first played it I'd get about 5 screens in any direction before I was killed, but in TP, I actually died on purpose because I realised I'd never seen the Game Over screen. And it's kind of sad it's come to that. Nintendo always say they're more focused on gameplay, and the gameplay needs a refreshing challenge to it, because some of the once-ingenious and stupidly-challenging puzzle mechanics are becoming kind of stale after 14 games worth of use.

In short, totally agree with the article, and nit-picking is pretty much all there's left to do in times so short on news :c

I never complain about the puzzles. It's just the fighting is too easy and sometimes boring.

I don't believe we need to die fo there to be a recignized challenge. As the writer said we need a new game. New puzzles. Zelda works on interactions between the player and the environment and some kind of weird symbiosis. Make our items do different things. Give us new items, let the enemies join in on the puzzles more often and as something more than a key test.

title didn't get to me until first comment hit.

I agree that puzzles need to change to give experienced players a new challenge. Not harder puzzles, but new. Things a newcomer can solve. But perhaps they could install a difficulty level for enemies and damage. make them tougher, faster. No more giant, quarter-heart machetes!

I believe this article is bollocks, reason being i became a zelda fan after playing TP (first zelda game for me) and then played the games in reverse (tp, windwaker, fsa, majoras mask ...) and found it got harder the closer i got to the first game.

The vets are right, the games are getting easier and then i played phantom hourglass, reviews say its great but nintendo just ballsed up another game.

The controls *should* have been made customiseable, the story aint all that interesting after the first island, the islands are either too small or just too large, there seems to be a lack indepthness (dont quote me, i burnt the game after the first island)

maybe the wii zelda will be difficult but not like majoras mask but not easy like TP, i think windwaker difficulty was almost spot on, just needed to be a *bit* more difficult in the storyline

You know what I remember? Iron Knuckles. In the spirit temple, they dealt a solid four hearts worth of damage. I agree that it would be nice to see entirely new puzzles, but I would also just like to see enemies that deal more damage. Selectable difficulty wouldn't be hard to implement. Finally, a point I'm stealing from the internet, items should be useful outside of the dungeon you find them in. Every time you get an item in a dungeon, you should be using it for the rest of the game.

Why are you guys writing such short articles lately?

SteelSlasher:

"I believe this article is bollocks, reason being i became a zelda fan after playing TP (first zelda game for me) and then played the games in reverse (tp, windwaker, fsa, majoras mask ...) and found it got harder the closer i got to the first game.

The vets are right, the games are getting easier and then i played phantom hourglass, reviews say its great but nintendo just ballsed up another game."

So you agree with the article, but think that it's bollocks...

Demo: The articles are so short presently because they are "casual articles." If you note category, it's just "articles", not anything related to Bombers. The Bombers articles are the rather long, more thought provoking and theory based, pieces that make this site more what it is. They are mostly on break right now, so casual short articles is the filler material.

Mel, just how hard ARE you right now?

Also, I agree.

Wetter than the Water Temple too I presume?

I have no problems with the length of this article or anything else for that matter. It touched on all the important points and even elaborated on them to a degree. Usually, I can think of a lot of stuff to expand on, but not with this article. Great piece, Mel.

It's a bit confusing trying to work out what this article is trying to say exactly. One monent you suggest that the continuity of the style of puzzles in the Zelda games is what makes the newer games easier (hence your point about OoT and TP swapping release dates) and claim old-school Zelda fans are now better players these days. But the next moment you talk about some of the earlier games like LA, MM and ALttP being flat-out more difficult than the newer ones!

Personally I'd say that the Zelda games have gotten easier as a whole. I remember in TWW, where hearts are absolutely abundant from enemies/destructable scenery. The similar game structures/puzzles that Nintendo uses, as well as the increasing maturity of gamers, are just other factors.

I'm an old timer Zelda freak from LoZ (1987), and I only partially agree with you. Twilight was way too easy, but I think that was because hearts and money to buy potions were too easy to come by, and monsters were not plentiful... as a ratio of health to danger.

That's easily handled by having a "Master Quest" after you beat it once, or even 3rd, 4th quest, where hearts and money are more scarce while monsters more plentiful, and boss' health increases... imagine Ganon taking 3x or 4x more hits to kill. At present I've never had to use a potion against Ganon. What makes Adventure of Link so hard is that you can't ever find a heart!

So you're right they've gotten easier lately, but not because of puzzles, its the hit points of the monsters. Just need the "Master Quest" versions.

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